JWINSIDER #001: ALL aspects of 1914 doctrine are now problematic from a Scriptural point of view

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JWFacts has contributed articles found throughout the site, and several of the contributions from JWStudies are also found in various places on this site. The following series of articles presented below have been culled from JWInsider’s postings about 1914 from jw-archive.org and theworldnewsmedia.org.  JWInsider presents himself as a JW who remains in good standing with his congregation. While we do not always agree with the views of JWInsider, his perspective usually reflects a fair consideration of both the scriptural sources and Watchtower sources.
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JWINSIDER #001 on 1914: From the posts in the topic ALL aspects of 1914 doctrine are now problematic from a Scriptural point of view.

The original context is found here:  https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/topic/39516-all-aspects-of-1914-doctrine-are-now-problematic-from-a-scriptural-point-of-view/

Even before C.T.Russell was born, commentaries on Bible prophecy included  dozens of potential dates. A couple of them even included 1914 as potentially significant time, nearly 200 years ago, now. The “1914 presence” doctrine, however, is only about 75 years old.

All the ideas behind the Watch Tower’s version of the 1914 doctrine have already been discussed for decades now, and all of them, so far, have been shown to be problematic from a Scriptural point of view. Since the time that the doctrine generally took its current shape in 1943, the meanings and applications of various portions of Matthew 24 and 25 have already been changed, and the timing of various prophesied events and illustrations have changed. Most recently, the meaning and identification of the “faithful and discreet slave” has changed. And the definition of “generation” has changed about half-a-dozen times. This doesn’t mean that the current understandings are impossible, of course, only that it has become less likely from the point of view of reason and reasonableness.

Besides, for most of the years of teaching this doctrine, we have had the flexibility of extending the “1914 generation” from a possible 40 years, up to 70, then 75, then 80 years. And this has been applied to teenagers who saw 1914, 10-year-olds who saw 1914, then even newborns who saw 1914. With every one of these options already tried and stretched to their limits, we finally were forced to convert the meaning of generation from its most common meanings and give it a new “strained” meaning that has no other Biblical parallel. (See Exodus 1:6; Matthew 1:17; 16:4; 23:36; Luke 11:50)

But that flexibility is still seen as the last reason for hope that the Watch Tower Society might have still been correct in hanging on to 1914. Since the Bible says that a lifespan is 70 or 80 years and 1914 + 80 = 1994, the “generation” doctrine in its original form (1943) could remain stable until about 1994. Of course, a lifespan could technically reach to 120 years or more, and Gen 6:3 even gives vague support to the idea that the “1914 generation” could last 120 years, until 2034.

The current alternative solution is to make the generation out of the length of two lifespans, which technically could be double 120 years, or nearly 240 years from 1914. That would have had the potential to reach to the year 2154 (1914+240) except for the caveat that it can, by its new definition, only refer to anointed persons who discerned the sign in 1914 and whose lives overlapped (technically, by as little as one second) with the lifespan of another anointed person representing the second group. If persons from each group don’t really discern their own “anointing” until age 20, for example, this would effectively remove 40 years from the overall maximum. 1914+120-20+120-20 = 2114. We could also assume a possible lifespan of more than 120 years, but otherwise, the new two-lifespan generation could potentially make the generation last 200 years. This “technical maximum” is not promoted currently, because for now we look at examples like Fred Franz who was part of that original generation already anointed and who saw the sign, and the typical example of an anointed brother who was apparently “anointed” prior to Franz’ death in 1992 would be someone like Governing Body member, Brother Sanderson, who was born in 1965, baptized in 1975, and was already a “special pioneer” in 1991. His is currently 52.

However, the generation problem is just one more problem now which we can add onto the list of all the other points that make up the 1914 doctrine. Here are several points related to 1914 that appear problematic from a Scriptural point of view:

  • All evidence shows the 1914 date is wrong when trying to base it on the destruction of Jerusalem. (Daniel 1:1; 2 Chron 36:1-22; Jer 25:8-12; Zech 1:12, 7:4; Ezra 3:10-13)
  • Paul said that Jesus sat at God’s right hand in the first century and that he already began ruling as king at that time. (1 Cor 15:25)
  • Jesus said not to be fooled by the idea that wars and rumors of wars would be the start of a “sign” (Matt 24:4,5)
  • Jesus said that the “parousia” would be as visible as lightning (Matt 24:27). He spoke against people who might say he had returned but was currently not visible. (Matt 24:23-26)
  • Jesus said that his “parousia” would come as a surprise to the faithful, not that they would discern the time of the parousia decades in advance. (Matt 24:36-42)
  • Jesus said that the kingdom would not be indicated by “signs” (Luke 17:20, almost any translation except NWT in this case)
  • The “synteleia” (end of all things together) refers to a concluding event, not an extended period of time (Matt 28:20)
  • Jesus was already called ruler, King and even “King of Kings” in the first century. (1 Tim 6:15, Heb 7:2,17; Rev 1:5; 17:14)
  • Wicked, beastly King Nebuchadnezzar’s insanity and humiliation does not represent Jesus as the “lowliest one of mankind.” (Heb 1:5,6; 2:10,11; Daniel 4:23-25; cf. Heb 2:7; 1 Pet 3:17,18)
  • The demise of a Gentile kingdom cannot rightly represent the time of the rise of the Gentile kingdoms (Daniel 4:26,27)
  • The Gentile kings did not meet their demise in 1914. (Rev 2:25,26)
  • The time assigned to the Gentile Times that Jesus spoke about in Luke 21:24 is already given as 3.5 times, not 7 times (Revelation 11:2,3)
  • The Devil was already brought down from “heaven” in the first century. (1 John 2:14,15; 1 Pet 5:8; Luke 10:18; Heb 2:14)
  • The Bible says that the “last days” began in the first century. (Acts 2:14-20; 2 Tim 3:1-17; 1 Peter 3:3-5; Heb 1:2, almost any translation except NWT in this case.)

 

 

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